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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:35 pm 
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If anyone in Seattle wants to try some, I am selling some from Lee Valley over in the classifieds. BYOB

I am only using it on bindings & I love it. I bought the giant 34 oz bottle to save on shipping, but I think half that will last me a long time.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:08 am 
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One great advantage of HHG is that it is relatively easy to separate a joint without damage. Does fish glue share this advantage?


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I heard fish has the same advantage of hide glue and long open time. I do agree it's easy to separate hide glue, especially if the joint is old. Often all it took in that case was a knife in the joint and they would pop free without damage. Heat isn't needed either. Do have to be more careful and use heat with fresher hide glue joint however, it is not as brittle.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:23 am 
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Fish Glue seems to be harder to pull apart, at least it does on the few bits that I've tried to disassemble. I suppose that depends on the HHG as well. There's an awful lot of variation in HHG, not much in Fish glue though.


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Joe Sallis wrote:
anyone in UK recomend a supplier?

Cheapest I could find here http://shop.apfitzpatrick.co.uk/63550-kremer-fish-glue-liquid-250ml-1578-p.asp

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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:27 am 
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Well, after all this fish glue talk I decided I should give it a go, so just received this in the post today!
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It didn't come with any storage recommendations, so what is best? Kept in fridge? Avoid too much cold?


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Long term I'll keep in the fridge........normal term (several years +) room temp seems fine.
I'm just finishing up now glue I bought 5 years ago........


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:24 am 
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I guess it's different depending on what fish it came from... I wonder if you could use Catfish glue and then string the guitar with Catgut string, so it goes MEEEOOOWW when you pluck it.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:49 pm 
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Will fresh fish glue re-activate existing fish glue in a similar way that HHG does, or does old the old glue have to be thoroughly cleaned off?


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Yes it will reactivate.

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Ya, fish glue tastes better than all the other glues combined. laughing6-hehe

A little salt, heat it up...pour on top of them Fukushima radiated salmon stakes...A1. pizza

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the Padma wrote:
Ya, fish glue tastes better than all the other glues combined. laughing6-hehe

A little salt, heat it up...pour on top of them Fukushima radiated salmon stakes...A1. pizza


My dog strongly agrees. Every time I bust out the fish glue he comes running trying to lick my glue brush. I can't stand the smell, but he seems to love it.


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try a splash in some Ramen noodles, it really gives it some pizazz


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David LaPlante wrote:
I use fish glue for everything with the exception of Titebond for:
-Laminating heels (1 joint)
-Joining tops (Titebond is a bit less visible according to Romanillos)
-gluing fret board (less moisture in Titebond I think)


In my experience, any glue line that is a visible one is made more noticible (vs Titebond) by using fish glue. So I no longer use it for a stacked heal and especially not when joining plates, particularly spruce but also cedar. I haven't had any problems with fret boards but IMHO that's the perfect use for epoxy - no moisture at all.

The long working time of FG makes it my choice for items like kerfed linings, braces, joining tops and backs to sides - lots of uses. Now my favorite adhesive.

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That's strange, I never had a visible glue line with fish on a good number of tops or stacks. I did once get a visible top joint, and once a visible stack line, and in both cases it was thick hide, put too heavily and not squeezed out enough. Fish is rather thick and viscous, but it doesn't thicken any more too soon, so if the surface is truly straight, and the clamping is good, and you don't put a ton of it there shouldn't be any problems.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:22 am 
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This Fish glue has risen in price considerably since I put in my last order to Kremer - a couple of years ago.
I've just received my two bottles at an unbelievable $720 US!!
Still, it's pretty good stuff and well worth it.


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